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		<title>Big Rock Tone with a Telecaster and Two Overdrive Pedals</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>romain</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While doing some research for an upcoming post about Eric Clapton&#8217;s &#8220;Woman tone&#8221;, I ended up trying my 1978 Telecaster with a setup I had just previously used with a Stratocaster. It had nothing to do with Clapton but I liked the tone and it reminded me how efficient a Telecaster can be to get <a href='http://www.guitartoneoverload.com/2010/12/11/big-rock-tone-with-a-telecaster-and-2-overdrive-pedals/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While doing some research for an upcoming post about Eric Clapton&#8217;s &#8220;Woman tone&#8221;, I ended up trying my 1978 Telecaster with a setup I had just previously used with a Stratocaster. It had nothing to do with Clapton but I liked the tone and it reminded me how efficient a Telecaster can be to get a good biting rock tone. I also found that by rolling off the &#8220;Tone&#8221; control on the guitar, things got even more interesting.  Here is the result (setup details and settings after the video):</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">The setup is 1978 Telecaster, bridge pickup -&gt; <a title="Boss SD-1 on Guitar Tone Overload" href="http://www.guitartoneoverload.com/2010/07/08/tube-screamer-alternative-the-boss-sd-1/" target="_blank">Boss SD-1</a> with Tone at  zero, Drive at 2 o&#8217;clock, Level at 3 o&#8217;clock -&gt; <a title="Analogman TS9" href="http://www.guitartoneoverload.com/2010/03/23/timeless-classics-the-ibanez-tube-screamer/" target="_blank">Analogman TS9</a> with Drive at 3 o&#8217;clock, Tone at 9 o&#8217;clock, Level at noon -&gt; 1974  Fender Champ set clean. A zest of compression and plate reverb were added in Cubase, and here  you are: a nitty gritty dirty rock tone full of sustain, Telecaster style, coming out of a very small amp.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For those of you having a &#8220;squealing&#8221; problem with the bridge pickup of your Telecaster while using a lot of gain, I advise you to have the pickup wax potted by a professional. It did wonders to my Telly.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For those of you interested in fattening their Strat or Tele tone, don&#8217;t forget the <a title="Proco RAT 2 on Guitar Tone Overload" href="http://www.guitartoneoverload.com/2010/02/17/the-proco-rat-2-or-hot-to-make-your-strat-or-tele-sound-fat/" target="_blank">Pro Co RAT 2</a>.</p>
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		<title>Guitarists: Robert Smith of The Cure</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>romain</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could have started this series about guitarists by featuring a fast heavy metal guitar slinger (and believe me, I love them) but instead I have decided to scrutinize the style and tone of The Cure&#8216;s Guitarist: Robert Smith. We will also see how we can reproduce his tone using some common pedals. The Cure <a href='http://www.guitartoneoverload.com/2010/02/17/guitarists/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have started this series about guitarists by featuring a fast heavy metal guitar slinger (and believe me, I love them) but instead I have decided to scrutinize the style and tone of <a title="the cure official website" href="http://www.thecure.com" target="_blank">The Cure</a>&#8216;s Guitarist: Robert Smith. We will also see how we can reproduce his tone using some common pedals.</p>
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<p>The Cure formed in 1976 as &#8220;the Easy Cure&#8221; to be renamed &#8220;The Cure&#8221; two years later. Characterized by a dark sound  and gloomy lyrics, it was at the forefront of a movement labeled as new wave alongside acts such as Joy Division. The Cure is still in activity today and released an album (4:13) in 2008. Although the line up has changed constantly through the years, guitarist/singer Robert Smith has been a constant in the band (alongside bass player Simon Gallup) and the main writer/composer. Look <a title="Cure Biography" href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/the-cure/id566519?showBio=1" target="_blank">here</a> for a complete biography of the band.</p>
<p>As a guitarist, Robert Smith is very much into creating atmospheres using various modulation effects as well as delay. Starting with the <a title="disintegration" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disintegration" target="_blank">disintegration</a> album released in 1989, the <a title="Fender Bass VI" href="http://theband.hiof.no/articles/fender_bass_vi.html" target="_blank">Fender Bass VI</a>, a baritone guitar, became an essential part of his sound and he is one of the rare users of the instrument in the realm of rock.</p>
<p>But I will focus here on an album which, to me, defined The Cure sound: <a title="Seventeen Second" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Seconds" target="_blank">Seventeen Seconds</a> released in 1980. In particular, this album features &#8216;A Forest&#8217;. This song was so influential in the 80s that I remember it being the  very first song I ever played in a band (I was playing the keyboards at the time and was shockingly bad at it).</p>
<p>The production of  &#8217;A Forest&#8217; is explained in details in the <a title="Sound on Sound Classic Tracks: The Cure 'A Forest'" href="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec04/articles/classictracks.htm?print=yes" target="_blank">December 04 edition of Sound on Sound Magazine</a>. What is particularly interesting in this article is the fact that the base of the guitar sound was a <a href="http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0100800806" target="_blank">Fender Jazzmaster</a> plugged into a <a href="http://www.roland.com/products/en/JC-120/" target="_blank">Roland JC-120</a> whose built-in stereo chorus  and clean tone was captured using two microphones. On top of that, a lot of outboard effects (flanger, delays and reverb) were used to create that very atmospheric sound. At the beginning of the song, the guitar sound is fairly dry, only some modulation is present and towards the end more delay is introduced.</p>
<p>This pattern is reproduced in this quite early live rendition and Robert Smith uses pedals to reproduce the studio tone:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">There are plenty of versions of this song on youtube and you&#8217;ll notice that in the more recent versions, the guitar tone is even more modulated and that quite some delay is added.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Let&#8217;s try to reproduce this particular tone using these simple pedals (the makeup and the hairdo are optional but they help in getting the tone right):</p>
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<li>A <a title="Boss BF-2" href="http://bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/bf2.xml" target="_blank">Boss BF-2</a> Flanger (now replaced by the <a title="Boss BF-3" href="http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=135" target="_blank">BF-3</a> but easy to find on the second hand market). The settings were manual 60%, Depth 75%, Rate 50% and Res 25%.</li>
<li>A <a title="Boss DD-3 Delay" href="http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=140" target="_blank">Boss DD-3</a> Delay: all knobs more or less at 50%.</li>
<li>A <a title="Boss RV-3" href="http://bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/rv3.xml" target="_blank">Boss RV-3</a> Reverb (discontinued too and replaced by the <a title="Boss RV-5" href="http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=424" target="_blank">RV-5</a>): balance 25%, tone 30%, r.time 40%, mode 10.</li>
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<p>Of course, other brands than BOSS are fine to emulate Robert Smith&#8217;s tone as long as you have a good chorus or flanger (a flanger is preferable but a strong chorus can do the trick) but the man himself uses a BF-2 (he actually has been using the whole Boss modulation/delay collection over the years).</p>
<p>In these examples, I use a Fender Custom Shop American Classic Fender Stratocaster from 1997. It is equipped with noiseless <a title="Kinman pickups" href="http://www.kinman.com" target="_blank">Kinman</a> pickups (the av-n blues set) and plugged into a <a title="Marshall JMP-1 Preamp Handbook" href="http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=11&amp;ved=0CEAQFjAK&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marshallamps.org%2Fdownloads%2Ffiles%2FJMP_1%2520Hbk.pdf&amp;ei=QvF0S72CEMPn-QbnoO2cBg&amp;usg=AFQjCNF-NBMzS2Ygx0djuE2e4aK8VNvwhA&amp;sig2=X0E8VTax2YZFLgZSV1vMBA" target="_blank">Marshall JMP-1</a> preamp set clean (channel &#8220;clean 1&#8243;, gain 9) and plugged straight into the recorder, a <a title="2 years with the Boss Micro-BR part 1" href="http://www.guitartoneoverload.com/2010/02/17/two-years-with-the-boss-micro-br-part-1/" target="_blank">Boss MICRO-BR</a>. The drums are provided by the drumbox built in the recorder.</p>
<p>Guitar only first (first part is clean, second part has the BF-2 flanger on, third part has the Boss DD-3 delay and the flanger on):</p>
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<p>And now an attempt to capture the atmosphere (I have played the intro followed by a kind of improv) :</p>
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